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swinny
3/23/2008 5:33:36 PM | I have finished my first MACR page.
I am happy about it ( still 93 to go 😃 ) but if you all could take a look at it and tell me what you feel about it , I would appreciate it.
I am no website expert but every comment could be a lesson for me.
http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/1678.htm
Andy
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 My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
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Jackie Sharp Sheflin
3/23/2008 5:54:42 PM | Andy,
I think it turned out great. It was well organized and very informative. I only noticed on spelling error in line 5 I think:
All members bailed out safely and were captured, excepted for John P. England, his faith is unknown..
I think you meant fate. His ~fate~ was unknown....that is the only suggestion I can make as you did a wonderful job on it. I certainly look forward to reading all of them as you add more.
Jackie
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swinny
3/23/2008 6:38:42 PM | Ok thanks Jackie , yes I meant fate .
I have to do it with my school English , I am going to change it now.
Thanks,
Andy
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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
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donaldbyers
3/23/2008 9:34:17 PM | Andy,
Thought your update was great and something others may seek for information on 401st information. Again GREAT JOB.
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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EDanaII
3/25/2008 11:04:10 AM | It's lookin' good to me, Andy. 🙂
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swinny
4/14/2008 5:47:49 AM | I finished off on the sixth MACR, I never knew it would be so much work.
Still got 88 to go 😂
http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/MACR401st.htm
Andy
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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
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donaldbyers
4/14/2008 10:14:12 AM | Andy,
Your doing a great job.
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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swinny
4/26/2008 5:03:11 AM | Does anyone know if there are flight planes to look in.
I mean the route they took on every mission .
Did they go over Holland or as much as possible over the North Sea when they entered Germany ?
Andy
p.s. The first 10 macr's are ready now.
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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
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win-win
4/26/2008 11:32:09 AM | Swinny:
This is absolutely everything I know about mission flight plans - Track Charts - (which isn't very much, but here goes:
- - The U.S. National Archives, College Park, Mary;land (Wasington, D.C. Beltway) has the originals (not microfilm)of all 401BG Mission Reports;
- - I've visited regarding my Uncle's missions, the last, 10-7-44 Politz where my Uncle S/Sgt.Dorris, was KIA in with his 613Aq. 1st.Lt. A.J. Nelson Crew. For that mission, I copied everything in the NARA's file which included the original Track Chart (flimsy) - the flight plan - that used colored pencil tracks of the briefed and flown tracks for 'C'-Box and 'D'-Box that 401BG planes flew in that day, to and from the target. I have a full size photocopy (black and white) and 35mm film photos (color) of parts of the chart and I'd be glad to check my few other Mission Reports (copies I secured via mail requests,) to see what track information they include, if you're interested.
- - FYI, In requesting the other (July-Oct., 1944) Mission Reports that my Uncle flew, my NARA contact advised that earlier reports were not as complete nor consistent about the forms of information included (as those about the time of Politz and subsequent).
- - Politz was Mission #154. I also have copies of (parts of Reports of) Missions #130 (Schkeuditz) and #133 (Peenemunde), but I don't know if 'Track Charts (or tabular positions-in-time) informations is included. Sometimes the Mission Reports' narrative indicate some route information.
- - I haven't looked to see what Web or Internet sources may have Track Chart information, but I thought others on this 401BG Website had info, too.
Good hunting and let me know if I can help you further.
Win
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swinny
5/27/2008 4:11:01 PM | I just finished my 13th MACR.
http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/MACR401st.htm
Its a lot of work and I would appreciate it if you all could take a look at it.
If someone has something to add or correct , I would be happy to know.
Any comment is welcom
Andy
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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
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Paul Bellamy
5/27/2008 6:13:43 PM | Good job so far Andy.
I'll give you a hand tweaking the English translations if you like. I'll e-mail you later this week.
By the way, do you have a copy of MACR 10410 (42-97600. 21 Nov 44) handy?
I could do with checking a couple of details in it for my research.
All the best,
Paul
Paul Bellamy
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swinny
5/28/2008 4:27:09 AM | Thank you , Paul
That would be great.
And yes , I have MACR 10410 there are 28 pages, just let me know how I can help
Andy
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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
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Phoenix
7/4/2008 9:24:11 AM | Andy,
Firstly I think you reports are very good indeed my only worry now that I have copies of microfiche MIA reports in front of me is that I notice disprepancies, which is going to open up a whole can of worms....oh dear.
improvise, adapt, overcome
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donaldbyers
7/4/2008 1:03:09 PM | "Phoenix":
Andy,
Firstly I think you reports are very good indeed my only worry now that I have copies of microfiche MIA reports in front of me is that I notice disprepancies, which is going to open up a whole can of worms....oh dear.
Phoenix.
Maybe you can help this guy with MACR 3599 which andy can't bring up on footnotes. he is at http://www.401bg.org/401bgweb/401bg_forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=364
Thanks Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Phoenix
7/4/2008 2:25:53 PM | Don,
If I can help I will but the information I have is taken from MIA reports plus Luftwaffe, eye witness etc and does not actually have MACR numbers!!!!! If Andy can give me aircraft, squadron, captain, date etc I'll cross reference and help him out. You see all this confusion leaves me a little concerned at "correcting the records" as we have to be over 100% certain that what we are doing is right.
Hope you enjoyed the 4th!!
Regards
Dale
improvise, adapt, overcome
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donaldbyers
7/5/2008 9:35:09 AM | It is Omar The Dent Maker 42-37833. You can get all that info from here http://www.401bg.com/history/crew.asp?cid=13401
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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