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Paul Bellamy
6/1/2008 10:46:02 AM | I found this over on the late Willard Reese's 457th Bomb Group website listed as a mystery airplane, not on the 457th roster:
Does anyone know anything about Virgil Goudy, the chap in the photograph?
All the best,
Paul
Paul Bellamy
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win-win
6/1/2008 5:00:44 PM | Paul:
1. (another) Great 'find'! Is it possible another 401st A/C 'unknown', 231081 (IN-c) 'Son of A Blitz', is there also? I looked, but didn't even find 'Sniklefritz'...operator error?
2. Sorry to learn of W. Reese's passing. He was always helpful to us, most recently in trying to find what Unit my Uncle's 'buddy', Radioman Sgt. H.L. Bussey, ser.36457879, was in - near Deenethorpe - (even though unsuccessful).
Thoughts?
Win Bryson
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donaldbyers
6/2/2008 11:15:22 AM | Yes this is a better picture of the nose art on the aircraft. When I was just scanning some of the pictures I have I believe there is one on the disks that I have but not as nice as this one.
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Paul Bellamy
3/12/2011 10:43:58 AM | Tying up loose ends again....
From previous posts we know that Snicklefritz, which currently lacks a serial number identity, was the usual plane flown by the Jetter Crew.
From the loading lists and Mr. Jetter's own list I've filled in the gaps in the crew mission list:
1. Bernay/St Martin (88) 11 Jun 1944 42-97344 Carrie B II
2. Le Bourget (90) 14 Jun 1944 43-37511
3. Bordeaux (93) 19 Jun 1944 43-37511
4. Hamburg (94) 20 Jun 1944 44-6132
X. Fienvilliers (98) 23 Jun 1944 44-6132 (Scrubbed from load list, did not fly mission)
5. Belloy-Sur-Somme (99) 24 Jun 1944 44-6132
6. Montbartier (100) 25 Jun 1944 44-6113 No.2 Bandwagon
7. Laon/Couvron (101) 28 Jun 1944 42-32005 (Typed as 42-31005 on load list)
8. Saumur (102) 4 Jul 1944 44-6132
9. Rely (103) 6 Jul 1944 44-6132
10. Renescure (104) 6 Jul 1944 44-6132
11. Munich (108) 12 Jul 1944 44-6132
12. Munich (109) 13 Jul 1944 42-97344 Carrie B II
13. Munich (110) 16 Jul 1944 44-6132
14. Augsburg (112) 19 Jul 1944 44-6132
15. Strasbourg (121) 3 Aug 1944 44-6132
16. Anklam (122) 4 Aug 1944 44-6132
17. Hautmensil (125) 8 Aug 1944 44-6132
18. Luxembourg (126) 9 Aug 1944 44-6132
19. Elbeuf (128) 13 Aug 1944 44-6132
20. Haggenau (129) 14 Aug 1944 44-6132
21. Yvoir (131) 18 Aug 1944 44-6132
22. Berlin (Recall) (136) 27 Aug 1944 42-102947 D-Day Dottie
23. Mannheim (140) 9 Sep 1944 42-31662 Fancy Nancy IV
24. Merseburg (142) 11 Sep 1944 42-97395 Chute the Works (614 Sqn. a/c)
25. Merseburg (143) 13 Sep 1944 44-6132
26. Groesbeek (144) 17 Sep 1944 44-6132 (Typed as 44-61132 on load list)
27. Hamm (145) 19 Sep 1944 44-6132
28. Cologne (149) 27 Sep 1944 44-6132
29. Munster (151) 30 Sep 1944 44-6132
30. Stargard (153) 6 Oct 1944 44-6132
31. Cologne (157) 17 Oct 1944 44-6132
32. Mannheim (158) 19 Oct 1944 44-6132
33. Hanover (159) 22 Oct 1944 44-6132
34. Hamburg (160) 25 Oct 1944 44-6132
With the exception of seven missions, their usual aircraft was IN-B 44-6132, the most likely candidate to be Snicklefritz.
See these other posts for more info:
1st Lt. Robert W. Cain, 613th Bomb Squadron
Jetter-Cain Crew First Combat Mission 6-14-1944
All the best,
Paul
Paul Bellamy
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donaldbyers
3/12/2011 2:36:03 PM | Paul,
I have updated the records to reflect the info from the loading lists. I did change the 11 Sep 1944 serial from 37395 to 97395 which is the correct tail nr. for Chute the Works.
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Paul Bellamy
3/12/2011 7:30:40 PM | Thanks Don,
I don't know why I wrote 37395, I did it once while I was compiling my notes and then corrected it , but forgot to correct it again when I transferred the typed list. 🤦
All the best,
Paul
Paul Bellamy
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donaldbyers
3/12/2011 8:02:21 PM | No problem you have caught me before also and I appreciate the back up!!!! My Friend....
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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wjpettit
3/13/2011 6:56:37 AM | Don, 43-37511 is Jill's Jalopy. I wonder if Joe knows somebody else flew his plane. (Probably without his permission.) Bill Pettit son of George Pettit, Jack Lipperts TT/Eng
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donaldbyers
3/13/2011 11:30:55 AM | Joe knows the plane was used by others we have been in contact since 1999. On 25 Aug 1944 Joe and crew went out to the hardstand to find out their aircraft wasn't there. It had been shot down the previous day, 24 Aug 1944, with the crew of Lt. M.S. Fish in it. However they were told that Lt. Maxwell Cain was the pilot and until I had researched it and told him of the error that was made he now knew the truth after so many years believing it was Cain flying his plane that day. My uncle was the Togglier on that mission and was KIA.
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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wjpettit
3/14/2011 6:44:57 AM | Don, I looked at dad's journal again yesterday. He wrote:"August 24,1944 Subject: Jill's Jalopy went down today. Hit by M.E. 109 fighters. A new crew, Lt. Fish, and there (sp) first mission. The target was Leipzig." So dad knew who was flying Jill's Jalopy, when it happened. Joe has told me, again yesterday, that the "old guys" up front (Tom, Jack and Dad) didn't talk to the younger guys in the back much. Dad was 30 years old and Joe was 18 (I think). It took contact with you to answer many questions Joe had for all those years. Joe has said Dad's journal answered many questions too. Keep up the good work. Bill Pettit, son of George Pettit, Jack Lippert's TT/Eng
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donaldbyers
3/14/2011 5:13:35 PM | The Mission for 24 Aug 1944 was Weimar a V2 Plant & Parts manufature. Also I don't remember (sorry) do I have a copy of that journal?
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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wjpettit
3/16/2011 2:31:45 PM | Sorry Don, I thought I sent you and Paul Bellamy both copies. Give me an address and I'll send a CD copy. Bill
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donaldbyers
3/16/2011 3:57:51 PM | Address sent via email.....
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Paul Bellamy
7/19/2020 10:37:16 AM | S/Sgt Virgil Goudy was a camera repair technician with the Photo Lab on the 457th BG's base at nearby RAF Glatton, where the initial photo was taken.
Paul Bellamy
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