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Ed Dana
9/7/2008 3:43:37 PM
And neither am I. :)

We still have a problem on this forum. Ignoring it will not change it.If you are bothered by the fact that this forum is getting buried in spam, or any of the other problems that plague either 401st site, please voice your concerns either here:

http://www.401bg.com/forum/show_msg.asp?ID=2933

Or on the new site:

http://www.401bg.org/401bgweb/401bg_forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=372

Please participate. Show your displeasure at the condition of this site. No problem was ever solved by sitting silently on the side.

Ed.
Jean Dawkins
9/8/2008 7:50:31 PM

Ed,

I support you in this, and will join you in voicing my displeasure on both sites.  The problem needs to be fixed; I would help delete if I could.

Thanks,
Jean

Win Bryson
9/8/2008 11:07:26 PM
Ditto.
Absolutely.
And if help is needed, the Associationneeds to say so.
I, too, am more than happy to help.
Win
Jackie
9/8/2008 11:16:47 PM
I agree with the rest of you that something needs to be done and soon. I helped with the Spam problem before on the new forum and like everyone else....I am willing to help again.


Jackie
Ed Dana
9/9/2008 1:59:28 PM
Thank you for your offer, Jean. It is appreciated.

Unfortunately, there is little anyone can do but be vocal about the situation, because nothing is being done otherwise. Feel free to let others know the situation and ask them to state their feelings as well. Nothing happens when nobody cares.

Ed.
Clyde Larry Mings
9/9/2008 8:18:43 PM
WIN- the question is HOW? Do any of our members know a computer jock who has an idea on how we can get rid of the pervert kids taking over our  website?  We were never turned back by the Luftewaffe,  and the punks need to have the tables  turned on them by a program that brings them equal grief. Looks like several countries are involved in the theft of our website. By listing our personal screen names it may
worsen the problem.Perhaps it would require closing the website and pick a similar new name and require a password to access it. The password would only be available to the membership roster, but that would defeat the purpose of access to the public who truly want to find out about "The Best Damn Outfit in the USAAF"
Any better solutions,  or does anyone have contacts with computer pros who can do a public service  by helping? We old members are in our eighties,  and not up on the latest technology on the spam problem.
Ed Dana
9/11/2008 7:05:36 PM
The solution already exists, Clyde. The 401st's new web site already protects against spam, but suffers from a different set of problems than this forum. I know the new forum is a little more difficult to use than this one, but what makes it difficult for us also makes it difficult for spammers.

The problem with this forum that the other forum shares is simply neglect: it is not being taken care of as it should. The spam can be cleaned easily if someone simply took the time. The new forum could also be made better if someone simply took the time. Instead they seem to be chasing yet another new site that may very well suffer from the same problems as the current site.

If this bothers you as much as it does the rest of us, please feel free to take your concerns to the leadership and ask them to do the right thing and give the 401st web sites the attention they deserve.

Ed.
Clyde Larry Mings
9/15/2008 8:29:12 PM
Our late beloved Col. Bowman would be ashamed to see us go out with a whimper and not a shout! There IS something that CAN be done about this garbage on OUR website. Each of us has two Senators and a Representative. Send a copy of this Forum page, listing the nerds and sluts who have spammed us,  and request the Congresssmen  to enroll the Government cyber- sleuths to track down these spammers. Politicians love a JUST CAUSE that will help them polish their image.Also, contact the FCC Enforcement Agency regsrding violation of "The Communications Act of 1934. "  We had some who thought they were above the law and were flouting the Ham Radio Rules. The Federal Communications Commission  confiscated their equipment , imnposed stiff fines in the $7-10,000 range and put some behind bars!  It CAN be done!
100 Senators and 435 Representatives can create a helluva stink!

Their investigations will unearth the spamming sources, and the one thing they cannot stand is for
some to lift up the rocks and expose them and their dubious pasts.

SUNSHINE IS THE BEST DISINFECTANT!


This bitching among our members gets us exactly NOWHERE! We are paying our cyberspace jocks  to do this job, and for a bunch of snot nosed jerks to hijack a website of thosee who lost so many to give them freedom-it is the epitome of asininity. We have several PhD's in our computer club who have been experts since" day one" and I will (and you can ask your club) to come up with a counter plan to attack the spammers computers  with a vengenance.Some of the spammers are foreign,  and the U.S. Govt contacting their officials is not something the spammers want to
have on their records. Let them move to wherever, but this website is dedicated to the hundreds of our comrades who gave it all. The least we can do is expose these intruders.Email and forward the spammer lists and request the Congressmen to open website 401BG.com and see the problem and act on it.

(I was a radio-gunner on "Madame Queen" in the 613th and took part in D-Day and many of the rough targets)

If anyone has trouble coming up with the email address of their Congressman or the FCC, let me know.

Clyde L. Mings CMSGT USAF (ret)

Ed Dana
9/17/2008 10:57:21 AM
I'm sorry, Clyde, but writing your congressman won't solve this problem. Writing your 401st representative, on the other hand, might. Our congressman have bigger fish to fry, whereas the 401st leadership should be responding this rather than ignoring it.

Ed.