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| '''Dale A Anderson''' <br/>7/10/2002 5:12:41 PM 
| I have recently recieved info that the Crew Members of Flak<br/> Rat II , C Wilsons crew which was shot down on 5/30/44 called<br/> their ship &quot;Patches&quot; all of the info that I have recieved<br/> from members of Wilsons crew say they flew on &quot;Patches&quot; and That <br/> Flak RatII was a second nickname. Can anyone else help here?<br/>  
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| '''Scott McElvain''' <br/>7/22/2002 9:57:24 PM 
| According to &quot;Heavy Bombers of the Mighty Eighth&quot; by Project Bits and Pieces, Flak Rat II was serial number 297440 and was shot down with Wilson's crew. The nickname Patches has not been connected to a specific serial number.  It is quite possible that a crew would have a nickname for the plane besides its nose art.  Some crews had a nickname for the own crew.  Will see if I can ind out any more......<br/>  
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| '''Dale Anderson''' <br/>7/23/2002 2:12:35 PM 
| Thanks for the help. Three members of Wilsons crew have <br/> told me that Flak RatII was called &quot;Patches&quot;. It would be<br/> nice if we could connect these two together. Serial#<br/> 297440 may in fact have had two nicknames. Also how<br/> can I find out more about Project Bits and pieces?<br/> Thanks, Dale Anderson.<br/>  
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| '''Scott McElvain''' <br/>7/23/2002 11:38:35 PM 
| Project Bits and Pieces is an effort by the Eighth Air Force Memorial Museum Foundation to fill in the cracks when it comes to identifying and keeping track of B-17s and B-24s.  Their address is Project Bits and Pieces, P.O. Box 3010, Warrenton, VA 22186-1710.  I think they might have a website.  You can probably get a copy through them.  I have a copy for the First Air Division.  Not sure if any other divisions are covered in other volumes.  Paul Andrews and William Adams are the individuals responsible.<br/>  
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| '''Virginia Senande''' <br/>8/17/2007 9:32:28 PM 
| Not sure if John A Gray was one of the crew members you spoke to, but he was my grandfather and said that his plane &quot;Patches&quot; was shot down on 5-30-1944. He was the radio operator on Wilson's crew.<br/>  
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| '''Virginia Senande''' <br/>8/17/2007 9:41:20 PM 
| Actually, I just realized that my grandfather, JA Gray, replaced your father on Wilson's crew after your father was wounded.<br/>  
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