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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>5/21/2011 12:52:24 PM 
| Working through the microfilm files at the moment, cross-checking PFF ship serials, when this entry caught my eye:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Hayes24Mar45.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Note the Mickey operator (M/O) and Gee-H (G-H) Operator in the crew list.<br/> <br/> The aircraft serial is given as 43-38707, which was a B-17 assigned to the 457th Bomb Group and flew with them on that day, so not a "loaner".<br/> <br/> Supposing a transposition of numbers, the closest 401BG aircraft would be 43-38077, IY-Q <i>Tagalong</i>.<br/> Checking the Hayes Crew list [++c010381|HERE] that supposition seems to fit.<br/> However, cross-checking the relevant 401BG Mission page [http://www.401bg.org/history/mission_sum.asp?mid=236|HERE] throws up a contradiction, as the Salisbury Crew is also listed as flying the same aircraft on that mission.<br/> 43-38077 was also a non-PFF equipped aircraft, transferred out of the 615th at the end of February 1945.<br/> <br/> I suspect the loading list was originally compiled from a list which only used the last three digits of the aircraft serial number.<br/> [http://www.401bg.org/history/aircraft.asp?acid=8707|44-8707] therefore becomes the most likely suspect, and was indeed fitted with both PFF and GEE-H. Hayes and his crew flew her only two days before too.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>5/22/2011 9:45:11 AM 
| Oh joy, more record contradictions on this issue...<br/> <br/> The mission loading lists for this day show the Salisbury crew on A/C 077 all right, but <b>42-102</b>077 rather than <b>43-38</b>077.<br/> The formation diagram further confuses the issue, showing Salisbury flying <b>IW-H</b> '8<b>077</b>.<br/> <br/> Mystery B-17G 42-102077 is being a bit tricky to track down. <br/> She's not to be found in the Monthly Inventories, which is to be expected as no such serial number existed, B-17 or otherwise, as it was part of a cancelled contract and not assigned to any aircraft.<br/> Having said that, she is listed in Vic's Squadron Histories and the original 614th Load Lists as flying with the 614th on a number of missions:<br/> <br/> Mission 236, 23rd March 1945: C. I. Park & Crew<br/> Mission 236, 24th March 1945: T. E. Salisbury & Crew<br/> Mission 238, 28th March 1945: S. Scimeca & Crew<br/> Mission 239: 30th March 1945: S. Scimeca & Crew<br/> Mission 240, 31st March 1945: S. Scimeca & Crew<br/> Mission 244, 8th April 1945: S. Scimeca & Crew<br/> Mission 246, 10th April 1945: C. W. Short & Crew<br/> Mission 248, 14th April 1945: E.A. Viehman & Crew<br/> Mission 249, 15th April 1945: O.L. Yeargan & Crew<br/> Mission 250, 16th April 1945: S.R. Friedsam & Crew<br/> Mission 251, 17th April 1945: F. Dobson & Crew<br/> Mission 253, 19th April 1945: S.R. Friedsam & Crew<br/> Mission 254, 20th April 1945: R.E. Nowlin & Crew<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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