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Message |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>12/8/2009 3:16:08 PM | Here, eventually, I hope to be able to post photos of all the PFF "Mickey" equipped B-17s assigned to the 401BG.<br/> <br/> Current known allocated aircraft: 17<br/> Current photographed aircraft: 14<br/> Last updated: 12th January 2014<br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-20-VE 42-97600</b><br/> Ex-94CBW PFF aircraft. <br/> Allocated 401BG 614BS <b>IW-Y</b> 20th August 1944. <br/> Transferred to 613BS <b>IN-Y</b>, date unknown.<br/> Lost in Action 21st November 1944.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/42-976002.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/PFF42-97600IN-Y-1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-25-VE 42-97636</b><br/> Ex-94CBW PFF aircraft. <br/> Suffered Category 3 damage as a result of a landing accident 8th August 1944, Lt. William C. Mannix (613th Squadron) flying. <br/> Aircraft repaired and brought back into service.<br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-H</b> 26th August 1944.<br/> Suffered Category 3 damage as a result of a landing accident 18th February 1945, Capt. Paul E. Campbell (615th Squadron Operations Officer) flying. <br/> Aircraft repaired and brought back into service.<br/> Smoke-laying equipment installed at some point, removed May 1945 prior to transfer to 305BG for Project Casey Jones.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/42-97636-3.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Seen at the far end of the dispersal<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-837142-97638s.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Aftermath of the 18th Feb 45 accident<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/636-2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-40-VE 42-97947</b><br/> Suffered Category 3 damage as a result of a taxying accident at Denver Municipal Airport 14th April 1944, just two days after delivery to the USAAF, Leon H Pringle of the 6th Ferrying Group in command.<br/> Ex-94CBW PFF aircraft. <br/> Allocated 401BG 612BS <b>SC-U</b> 7th August 1944.<br/> Suffered unspecified damage in a ground accident whilst parked 5th February 1945, repaired and flew as High Sqn. Lead the next day.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-U</b> end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in August (May?) 1945 for Project Casey Jones.<br/> Most likely to be the true identity of "Snooper" seen downthread.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Snooper/F-401-2-Cs.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Continuation%20Album%201/4297497SCU.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/42-97947.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/waist1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Note the Instrument Landing System indicator and associated equipment installed top right.<br/> The SCS-51 ILS indicator was only fitted to lead bombers in this position, and was used in conjunction with mobile ground stations to show the bombardier the forward position of friendly ground forces, i.e. "The Bomb Line".<br/> The instruction to install this indicator for this purpose in all lead aircraft was issued by Division HQ in the week ending 25th December 1944.<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/42-979472.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-45-VE 44-8033</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 614BS <b>IW-C</b> 17th August 1944. <br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-C</b> end of February 1945. <br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/PFFVic2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8033.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/NARA-Crews/65785c.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Summer 1945, part-way through having her 401BG markings replaced with 305BG ones:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/IY-C-033-1s.jpg' /><br/> (Photo: Paul Knight Collection)<br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-50-VE 44-8153</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 612BS <b>SC-Q</b> 18th August 1944. <br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-O</b> end of February 1945. <br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/NARA-Crews/65428b.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8153.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-55-VE 44-8258</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-A</b> 4th October 1944.<br/> Force-landed Melsbroek, Belgium on December 11th 1944. <br/> Destroyed on the ground at Melsbroek by German fighters, 1st January 1945.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8258-2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8258.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-55-VE 44-8259</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 614BS <b>IW-G</b> 17th November 1944.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-K</b> end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8259.jpg' /><br/> <br/> And in her post-war 305BG service, with the ghost of the 401st stripe still visible on her fin:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-82592.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-60-VE 44-8371 "Badland Bat II / Freckles"</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-M</b> 30th November 1944.<br/> Suffered unspecified damage in a ground accident whilst parked 8th February 1945. <br/> Lost in Action, 16th February 1945.<br/> (Second aircraft from front)<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-837142-97638s.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-65-VE 44-8449</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 613BS <b>IN-P</b> 9th November 1944.<br/> Suffered Category 3 damage as a result of a take-off accident 20th November 1944, Lt. K.A. Baker flying. <br/> Aircraft repaired and brought back into service.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-F</b> end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in April 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> No photos yet.<br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-65-VE 44-8454</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 613BS <b>IN-C</b> 19th November 1944.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-T</b> end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8454.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-70-VE 44-8550</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 613BS <b>IN-Q</b> 1st January 1945.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-D</b> end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> Seen here hiding behind 43-38758 IN-P "Fast Company":<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8550IY-D.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-75-VE 44-8648</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 613BS <b>IN-M</b> January 1945.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-N</b>end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> No photos yet.<br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-75-VE 44-8653</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-S</b> 20th January 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> Seen here in formation with 44-8708<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8653-1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-80-VE 44-8707</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-M</b> 17th February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> No photos yet.<br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-80-VE 44-8708 "St Looie Blues"</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-G</b> 17th February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> (As she's flying alongside IW-N 43-38738 "Be Comin' Back" this is either the 10th March 1945 mission #225 to Hagen marshalling yards, or the 10th April 1945 mission #246 to Oranienburg ordnance depot)<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8708IY-G.jpg' /><br/> <br/> In her 305BG colours at St. Trond, Belgium, during Project Casey Jones when she became XK-R. It is not known whether her name was applied before she left the 401st.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/448708.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-85-VE 44-8812 "Beat Me Daddy"</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 615BS <b>IY-A</b> 19th February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG as XK-A in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones<br/> <br/> 17th March 1945<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8812a.jpg' /><br/> <br/> (This is believed to be '812 in April 1945, but not yet confirmed)<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/UnID.jpg' /><br/> <br/> From the unusual double-line mark visible on the leading edge of the wing, this seems to be the same aircraft:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/NARA-Crews/65785b.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>B-17G-85-VE 44-8825</b><br/> Allocated 401BG 614BS <b>IW-J</b> 19th February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 615BS <b>IY-J</b> end of February 1945.<br/> Transferred to 305BG in May 1945 for Project Casey Jones.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/NARA-Crews/65783.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Seen here on the bomb run with radome extended. <br/> 44-8033 IY-C is on her starboard wing as reserve PFF ship, with 44-8767 IN-W on the port wing.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/PFFVic2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> '825 after transfer to the 305BG, during removal of the armament and 401st markings.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8825.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>"Snooper"</b><br/> I've not yet confirmed this as one of the "Mickey Ships", but from the photos so far examined it seems only the 401st's PFF aircraft had the cheek guns removed and plated over. The name and nose art are rather apt for a BTO ship too.<br/> Furthermore, there appears to be additional equipment installed above the front cheek window (note the non-standard bolts/rivets) in a similar position to the ILS repeater seen in 42-97947 upthread.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Snooper.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Unknown aircraft, showing the plates over the cheek gun ports.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/ModNose.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Unknown aircraft, showing the paired antennae for the SCR 718 Radar Altimeter under each wing (the little T-shaped things below each engine):<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/NARA-Crews/65785.jpg' /><br/> <br/> The same antennae arrowed in the possible 44-8812 photo:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/Ant4a.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Nice detail of the scanner radome:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/NARA-Crews/65784a.jpg' /><br/> <br/> I've moved the RCM Ships photos to a dedicated thread [T0599|HERE].<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>12/9/2009 3:33:12 PM | Updated at 21.30hrs GMT 9 Dec 09 <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/7/2010 1:50:02 PM | Updated at 19.49hrs 7th Feb 2010<br/> <br/> Added: In-flight photo of 42-97947 SC-U <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>2/7/2010 7:21:45 PM | Again, WOW!! great photo's Paul.<br/> <br/> i want to ask you a "rookie" question...<br/> <br/> <br/> 5th picture down, from top...what is that guy called? What is he doing... Is he the Bombardier?.<br/> <br/> Again, excuse the "ignorance" Thanks Paul! <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/7/2010 8:33:49 PM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"MaryAlice":</span><br/>I want to ask you a "rookie" question...<br/> <br/> 5th picture down, from top...what is that guy called? What is he doing... Is he the Bombardier?.<br/> <br/> Again, excuse the "ignorance" Thanks Paul!</blockquote><br/> <br/> Derrick, only the ignorant <b>fail</b> to ask questions. 😉 <br/> <br/> Yes, the chap in photo 5 is sitting in the Bombardier's seat.<br/> In PFF/Mickey/Pathfinder B-17s there was always a qualified Bombardier in this position, who also operated the Chin Turret guns. In the photo the chap has his hand on the gunsight for the Chin Turret, and the operating controls can be seen by his knee. <br/> <br/> By 1944 8AF policy was formation bombing, with most aircraft's bombs being released (toggled) by part-trained "Toggliers". <br/> These were not qualified Bombardiers, but usually one of the gunners on the crew, who was trained how to arm and release the bombs, dropping them by watching when the Lead plane (with a Bombardier on board) did. <br/> This meant that out of a Group formation of 36 B-17s, only the six Lead and Deputy Lead planes had to have a trained Bombardier and a Norden bombsight on board, which greatly eased back the Stateside training program backlog.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>2/8/2010 9:15:28 AM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"Paul Bellamy":</span><br/>(quote="MaryAlice")I want to ask you a "rookie" question...<br/> <br/> 5th picture down, from top...what is that guy called? What is he doing... Is he the Bombardier?.<br/> <br/> Again, excuse the "ignorance" Thanks Paul!</blockquote><br/> <br/> Derrick, only the ignorant <b>fail</b> to ask questions. 😉 <br/> <br/> Yes, the chap in photo 5 is sitting in the Bombardier's seat.<br/> In PFF/Mickey/Pathfinder B-17s there was always a qualified Bombardier in this position, who also operated the Chin Turret guns. In the photo the chap has his hand on the gunsight for the Chin Turret, and the operating controls can be seen by his knee. <br/> <br/> By 1944 8AF policy was formation bombing, with most aircraft's bombs being released (toggled) by part-trained "Toggliers". <br/> These were not qualified Bombardiers, but usually one of the gunners on the crew, who was trained how to arm and release the bombs, dropping them by watching when the Lead plane (with a Bombardier on board) did. <br/> This meant that out of a Group formation of 36 B-17s, only the six Lead and Deputy Lead planes had to have a trained Bombardier and a Norden bombsight on board, which greatly eased back the Stateside training program backlog.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul(/quote)<br/> <br/> <br/> Thanks Paul. Yes, I too am under teh pretense, that "the only stupid question, is the one that does not get asked". <br/> <br/> Your last paragraph, I actually just passed that info in my book I am reading, "Masters of the Air"....they were describing how they trained what they felt were the best bomardiers, and put them in the lead plane (as you were describing) and once they "flipped the switch..other's followed suit. The book also said that alot of the guys (the one's NOT in teh lead planes) felt like "they were just pushing a button", so there was some hard feelings there (according to the book).<br/> <br/> To me, this book has been a very good read, and VERY educational for me...have learned alot aboout how teh 8th Air Force (and teh Air Force in general) came to be. As well as the HUGE failure rate (number of planes lost is what I mean) we had in the beginning of the campaign...the "guinea pigs" so to speak...things like dealing with frost bite, and what the guys did not know in teh beginning (ball turret having to go to bathroom in his pants, and urine freezing, and later, they started putting urine bottles in with the guys to prevent that) <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/31/2010 8:10:20 AM | Photo of 44-8033 added.<br/> Eleven down, six to go. 🙂 <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/31/2010 2:13:35 PM | Brief details of accident reports added where applicable. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>4/21/2010 12:48:51 PM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"Paul Bellamy":</span><br/><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/42-976002.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/44-8454.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/UnID.jpg' /><br/> <br/> </blockquote><br/> <br/> <br/> Was browsing the site, and I normally hop back on this thread, because of the great pics and info in it, and I really think that, aside from any "Mary Alice" photo's (I am a little biased as you can imagine, LOL!) that the above pics are some of the best.<br/> <br/> REALLY love that belly shot, doors open, just classic photo..<br/> <br/> Next shot, in flight, with nothing but billowing clouds in background, peaceful, serenity (during a time of anything BUT is classic timing), sun reflecting off her "natural beauty", perfect pic<br/> <br/> And last but not least, Fortress parked, close up of her, with Forts flying overhead in background...pic says a thousand words, and these do that and then some. Love it... <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>6/19/2010 8:38:16 AM | List updated: Post-accident photo of 42-97636 added.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>6/20/2010 12:30:46 PM | List updated: In-flight photo of 44-8708 added. 😃 <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>7/4/2010 11:27:52 AM | List updated: In-flight photo of 44-8033 and 44-8825 added.<br/> <br/> Thanks Don. 😃 <br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>11/10/2010 8:02:00 PM | More photos added. 🙂 <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''donkirk''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>11/13/2010 1:51:07 PM | Paul, thank you for all the effort you put into tracing the history and men of the the 401st. I talked to my brother Charles, who was the radio operator of Capt. Richard McCord's crew in the 612th, yesterday about the pictures, and the memories flooded out of him. His crew flew two and perhaps three pathfinder missions in 44-8153, SC-Q. One of your pictures, B65428A.C., shows a different crew with that plane, but the enlisted man in the lower left corner looks exactly as I remember my brother from 60 years ago. Compare this picture with my brother, second from the left in the back row, in the McCord crew picture.<br/> <br/> Charles told me that at one time he and some other men were sent to a nearby air station to bring a plane back home to Deenethorpe, but he didn't remember which plane or any of the names of those men. What he did remember that that was when they heard very loud and beautiful music from a hangar (it's not clear whether at the other station or at Deenethorpe) they walked in to hear a Glenn Miller concert, not too long before Miller disappeared in December. As he told it, that might have been when they brought that plane back.<br/> <br/> I wonder if you or anybody else reading this thread has more information about the timing of the picture, the men in it, and the situation <nowiki>--</nowiki> that is, was it related to a mission, a short ferry flight, or a posed picture? <br/><br/><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>11/13/2010 7:21:26 PM | Hi Don,<br/> <br/> The original caption on the back of photo B65428AC reads:<br/> <br/> <i>Crew 7 of the 612th Bomb Squadron, 401st Bomb Group, in front of a Boeing B-17 "Flying Fortress" at an 8th Air Force base in England, 30 September 1944.</i><br/> <br/> The copy of this photo on Footnote has been annotated by "patootie63" with the identities of some of those pictured:<br/> <br/> Back row, left to right:<br/> Captain McCord, Captain Murray, unknown, unknown, unknown.<br/> <br/> Front row, left to right:<br/> T/Sgt Kirkman, S/Sgt Edmunds, S/Sgt. Peyreigne, T/Sgt Strickland.<br/> <br/> There is a book that lists all the concerts Glenn Miller's AAF Band played in the UK, but I don't have a copy to hand.<br/> I'll ask around and see if I can borrow a copy and see if we can work out a likely location.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''donkirk''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>11/14/2010 1:28:12 AM | Paul, thanks for those leads. I'll pop over to Footnote and work from that side. I'm a little puzzled because none of the other men in that picture seem the same to me as those in the McCord crew picture in the crew lists <nowiki>--</nowiki> my brother is the only one I recognize for sure in both pictures. Let me scratch around a bit more; maybe one day I can catch my brother ready to check the pictures on line with me; when we start to talk on the phone his mind goes a mile a minute on all the things he wants to be sure to tell me (I hope he's not reading here). 🙂 <br/><br/><br/> |- | '''donkirk''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>11/14/2010 12:55:18 PM | Paul, as they say in American football when there is an issue, "after further consideration," I think I've cleared up most of my issues, thanks to your clue about Footnote (I hate the way navigation works on that site, but it's a godsend for researchers). Looking at a larger image more carefully, I do recognize that as the McCord crew and the names are correct on the annotation except that it should be "Edmonds," not "Edmunds." The three lieutenants to the right of the back row are 1st Lt. Howard D. Fishbeck, navigator; 1st Lt. Joseph E. Browne, bombardier; 1st Lt. Robert W. Howard, Mickey operator. All three were promoted to captain after this photo was taken. I don't know which is which, but I'm sure somebody can give us that information. <br/> <br/> The McCord crew flew two missions in 44-8153 with the crew in the picture. Group mission 145 went to Hamm on September 19, 1944, and mission 150 went to Magdeburg on September 28. So this wasn't the Glenn Miller time. 🙂 <br/><br/><br/> |- | '''donkirk''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>11/23/2010 1:16:09 PM | <blockquote>I do recognize that (photo) as the McCord crew and the names are correct on the (Facebook) annotation except that it should be "Edmonds," not "Edmunds." The three lieutenants to the right of the back row are 1st Lt. Howard D. Fishbeck, navigator; 1st Lt. Joseph E. Browne, bombardier; 1st Lt. Robert W. Howard, Mickey operator. </blockquote><br/> <br/> My brother Charles, the radio operator, was able to identify all the men in the picture for me.<br/> <br/> Front Row, Left to Right:<br/> T/Sgt Charles C. Kirkman, radio-operator <br/> S/Sgt Elroy Edmonds, tail gunner<br/> S/Sgt Pierre V. Peyreigne, ball turret gunner <br/> T/Sgt Z.D. Strickland, engineer <br/> <br/> Back Row, Left to Right:<br/> Capt Richard D. McCord, pilot<br/> Capt John McMurray, copilot<br/> 1st Lt. Howard D. Fishbeck, squadron navigator<br/> 1st Lt. Robert W. Howard, Mickey operator<br/> 1st Lt. Joseph E. Browne, squadron bombardier <br/><br/><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/7/2011 2:42:28 PM | List updated:<br/> <br/> 42-97947 is shown with a retro-fitted Cheyenne tail position in the in-flight photo. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/8/2011 10:03:02 AM | Another ground photo of Snooper has turned up:<br/> <br/> "Lt. White and Crew of the 614th Bomb Squadron, 401st Bomb Group, in front of the Boeing B-17 "Flying Fortress" at an 8th Air Force base in England, 7 April 1945."<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/snooperpic2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> However, this once again brings into doubt the accuracy of the captions on the back of the original photos...<br/> Compare with the other nose photo of Snooper:<br/> <br/> "The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress "Snooper" of the 401st Bomb Group at an 8th Air Force base in England, 1 March 1945."<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Snooper.jpg' /><br/> <br/> The same 35 mission markers in both images, allegedly taken over a month apart. Something not right there surely?<br/> <br/> On a related note, something unusual seems to be going on with the nacelle on No.3 engine. It seems to have been replaced with a camouflage-painted cowling and cooling flaps.<br/> Annoyingly, the Footnote version of the image is cropped. <br/> Don, any chance you could e-mail me a copy of the full version of 65438AC we got from NARA please?<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>2/8/2011 5:59:16 PM | Sure thing Paul, it is on my desktop computer. Also have you downloaded the January 11 2010 zip file?<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/8/2011 7:08:16 PM | Thanks Don.<br/> <br/> Ed's download came through just fine, I left it running overnight and it was waiting for me this morning.<br/> I guess that brings me back up to speed. 🙂<br/> <br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/9/2011 6:12:59 PM | Update:<br/> 42-97947 <b>SC-U</b> was indeed transferred to the 615BS at the end of February of 1945, and her new identity was <b>IY-U</b>.<br/> All the PFF transfers to the 615BS I've checked so far occur in the last couple of days of that month, and by 1st March all bear IY- codes.<br/> Listing being amended accordingly.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/8/2011 9:38:30 AM | Some relevant entries from the monthly Group Operational Reports, which have gone a long way to clarifying how the PFF ships were used.<br/> <br/> January 1945:<br/> <blockquote><br/> RADAR.<br/> REMARKS:<br/> 2. With the addition of the new mickey trainer, spot jammer and Loran trainer, the Radar Shop now has a radar training building in operation, incorporating all the training on this equipment in the one building.</blockquote><br/> February 1945:<br/> <blockquote>MEMO:<br/> TO: All Personnel.<br/> <br/> 1. During the last few days of February a definite change in the combat crew organization of the group was accomplished.<br/> Effective March 1, all lead and deputy lead crews are reassigned to the 615th Bombardment Squadron; regular crews are retained in the 612th, 613th and 614th Bombardment Squadrons.<br/> All lead aircraft are in the lead crew squadron and regular aircraft in the remaining three.<br/> <br/> 2. Although the physical change is accomplished some time will be required of course to work out all the planned improvements in procedure.<br/> <br/> 3. The basic reason for the reorganization is to increase training efficiency - thereby improving operational efficiency. Training of lead crews will be more centralized. More emphasis can be put on planned and well briefed practice flights, on instruction rides and air checks. Many problems of coordination directly affecting training will be simplified.<br/> For example, H2X maintenance personnel coordinate their activitied with one instead of four squadrons; H2X training is coordinated with one operations section; also M-H <b>*</b>, Cat and Mouse, and GH (GH when equipment is obtained for the group); air checks of lead crews by C-1 personnel; coordination with Communications to obtain proper VHF crystals for air-to-ground contact on the practice H2X range - is accomplished by one instead of four squadrons.<br/> These and other problems of detail are simplified - details which taken collectively can sometimes mean the difference between a successful or an unsuccessful practice flight.<br/> <br/> 4. It is the responsibility of the 612th, 613th and 614th Bombardment Squadrons to check thoroughly all potential lead material, to give them air instruction to check them.<br/> In short all three squadrons advance a crew to the point where it can pass checks by Group Operations and the lead squadron operations personnel for acceptance into the lead squadron as a trainee.<br/> The responsibility of formation training rests chiefly with the 612th, 613th and 614th Bomb Squadrons.<br/> The lead squadron advances a crew from trainee to deputy to lead position and is responsible for maintaining lead and deputy crews at a high level of operational efficiency.<br/> <br/> 5. Each operations staff is still responsible for accomplishing a man sized job.<br/> <br/> WILLIAM T. SEAWELL<br/> Lt. Col., Air Corps<br/> Commanding</blockquote><br/> <br/> <b>*</b> Micro-H, a radio-navigation system similar to GEE-H, but incorporating the H2X radar equipment. <br/> Only used operationally by the 8AF within the 3rd Air Division, not known to have been used in the 401st's 1st Air Division.<br/> <br/> March 1945:<br/> <blockquote>RADAR.<br/> REMARKS:<br/> 1. During the first part of march, four (4) of the PFF aircraft as well as the tow-target aircraft were modified for Gee-H installation.<br/> On the 21st of March the Group flew the first Gee-H mission with aircraft maintained and operated by our own Group personnel.</blockquote><br/> April 1945:<br/> <blockquote>RADAR.<br/> REMARKS:<br/> 1. With the introduction of new equipment in the Radar Shop a new building has been erected to house the entire H2X and Eagle maintenance section.</blockquote>Unfortunately, I have no idea where this new building was built, but I'll see what I can discover.<br/> <br/> Interesting to see the reference to AN/APQ-7 Eagle radar though.<br/> I'm guessing the Group was working up to being equipped with it at some point had the war in Europe continued any longer, as 8AF operational trials had only just begun by VE-Day.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/28/2011 5:42:58 PM | List updated 28 March 2011.<br/> Photo of PFF-equipped "Beat Me Daddy" added, tentatively identified as 44-8812. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>3/28/2011 6:56:52 PM | There was a note to the same when I went in and looked at the info on 44-8812. I believe this is probable.<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>7/30/2011 7:11:42 PM | List updated with new info relating to 42-97947's ground accident at Denver in April 1944.<br/> <br/> PB <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>12/11/2011 8:10:01 PM | Post-war photo of 44-8708 added:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/448708.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>7/23/2013 5:20:38 AM | I've been lucky enough to find an indicator unit (I-152) for the SCR-718 radar altimeter system as fitted to the Group's PFF ships. 🙂<br/> <br/> It's a bit rough on the front panel and is missing the glare shield, but is otherwise complete.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/I152-5.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/I152-1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/I152-2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/I152-3.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/I152-4.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/H2X/I152-6.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>7/26/2013 2:36:48 PM | Great photos Paul!!!!!! <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>8/22/2013 2:20:30 PM | New photo of 42-97600 added:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/PFF42-97600IN-Y-1.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>8/22/2013 4:55:53 PM | First photo showing 44-8550 added. 😃<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8550IY-D.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>8/25/2013 4:48:53 AM | In-flight photo of 44-8258 IY-A added, courtesy of J Dresbach:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8258-2.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>11/19/2013 2:37:13 PM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"Paul Bellamy":</span><br/>Note the ILS repeater and associated equipment installed top right.<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/42-979472.jpg' /></blockquote><br/> Just updating the info on this image.<br/> <br/> The SCS-51 Instrument Landing System indicator was only fitted to lead bombers in this position, and was used in conjunction with mobile ground stations to show the bombardier the forward position of friendly ground forces, i.e. "The Bomb Line".<br/> The instruction to install this indicator for this purpose in all lead aircraft was issued by Division HQ in the week ending 25th December 1944. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>1/12/2014 9:00:54 AM | Photo of 44-8653 found and added. 🙂<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/44-8653-1.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Jackie Sharp Sheflin''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>4/17/2014 9:38:19 AM | I know this may sound like a foolish question...but what is a "Mickey Ship"?<br/> <br/> Jackie <br/><br/><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://www.donald-byers.com/JackieSharpSig.jpg' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>4/17/2014 6:06:00 PM | "Mickey" was a nickname for the H2X pathfinder radar. 🙂 <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Jackie Sharp Sheflin''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>4/17/2014 6:10:56 PM | Paul,<br/> <br/> Was that an unusual type of radar for the planes to have?<br/> <br/> Jackie <br/><br/><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://www.donald-byers.com/JackieSharpSig.jpg' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>4/17/2014 6:14:44 PM | No, H2X PFF was the standard bombing radar fitted to a proportion of 8AF and 15AF B-17s, in place of the ball turret. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Jackie Sharp Sheflin''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>4/17/2014 6:35:37 PM | Paul,<br/> <br/> I am not sure I understand entirely, but I thank you. I always thought all B17 had the ball turrets.<br/> <br/> Jackie <br/><br/><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://www.donald-byers.com/JackieSharpSig.jpg' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>4/17/2014 6:40:30 PM | Here's a good clear view showing the radome that replaced the ball turret on "Mickey Ships":<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Continuation%20Album%201/4297497SCU.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>6/29/2014 9:30:27 AM | New photo of 42-97947 added.<br/> <br/> Note: The data block at the bottom doesn't currently appear to make much sense when compared to known records.<br/> I'm working on it though... 😉<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Snooper/F-401-2-Cs.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>7/16/2014 5:04:31 AM | Summer 1945 photo of 44-8033 added, part-way through having her 401BG markings replaced by her new 305BG ones:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/IY-C-033-1s.jpg' /><br/> (Photo: Paul Knight Collection) <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Jackie Sharp Sheflin''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>7/24/2014 6:35:06 PM | Very nice pictures! Thank you for all the work you do to share them!<br/> <br/> <br/> Jackie <br/><br/><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://www.donald-byers.com/JackieSharpSig.jpg' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>9/9/2017 12:33:57 AM | Minor update this evening. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |}
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