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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>10/23/2009 7:24:26 AM 
| I'm involved in a long-term project to identify sites where the AAF disposed of surplus materials in England during WWII, and we excavated part of one such site a couple of weeks ago. <br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Image5-1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Image6-3.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Here is one of the stencilled panels recovered:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/IBSU1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> This is marked as belonging to B-17G-95-BO 43-38733, SC-K "I'll Be Seeing You" of the 612th Bomb Squadron, 401st Bomb Group.<br/> '733 can be seen in the line-up below, second from the front.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/IBSU2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> On March 24th 1945, while bombing a Luftwaffe airfield in support of the Operation Varsity Rhine crossings, the 36 B-17s put up by the 401st encountered "deadly accurate" flak over the target.<br/> 18 of the 36 were damaged, 16 of receiving major damage.<br/> <br/> One of these heavily damaged aircraft was SC-K, being flown by Lt C.J. Campbell and his crew, who were on their 29th mission.<br/> Despite losing two engines over the target and having the elevator controls shot away, making the aircraft nearly uncontrollable, Lt. Campbell managed to nurse his plane back across the Channel to England. <br/> Spotting Halesworth airfield near the coast, Lt. Campbell let down to land, but on final approach a third engine failed, which threw the plane into a spin and resulted in a crash just short of the runway.<br/> <br/> Campbell and his Co-pilot Lt. P.W. Foy miraculously survived, but the remaining seven members of the crew perished in the crash:<br/> <br/> Navigator:<br/> Lt D.B. Gruhn<br/>     <br/> Togglier:<br/> S/Sgt Joseph R. Pearlin, #11120564<br/> Air Medal with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters and Purple Heart.<br/> Buried in Plot C, Row 1, Grave 51, Cambridge American Cemetery, England.<br/> <br/> Radio Operator:<br/> T/Sgt G.M. Feo<br/> <br/> Engineer / Top Turret Gunner:<br/> T/Sgt C.F. Kartes<br/> <br/> Ball Turret Gunner:<br/> S/Sgt E. Sullivan<br/> <br/> Tail Gunner:<br/> S/Sgt C.K. Dalton <br/> <br/> Waist Gunner:<br/> S/Sgt H.M. Murray<br/> <br/> Campbell and his crew in front of '733 on February 10th 1945, after returning from a mission to Dulmen, Germany:<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/CJ.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Lest we forget <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>10/23/2009 12:30:41 PM 
| Is that the only thing found in that dig and where was it located at?  Could you send me the pic of the aircraft lined up please. 43-38810 Mrs Knobby in the foregound.<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>10/23/2009 2:58:48 PM 
| Hi Don,<br/> <br/> From the two test pits dug, we recovered over 10 tons of aircraft parts, both discarded damaged components and unused spares.<br/> Aircraft types covered B-17, B-24, P-38, P-47 and P-51.<br/> <br/> As for the location, all I'm allowed to say at the moment is it's "somewhere in East Anglia", and more than two-hours drive from Deenethorpe.<br/> <br/> E-mail copy of the photo on the way.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>10/23/2009 3:59:16 PM 
| Thanks for the info Paul,<br/> <br/> First four are:<br/> <br/> 3-38810  SC-V  Mrs Knobby<br/> 3-38733  SC-K  I'll Be Seeing You<br/> 3-38541  SC-F  Diabolical Angle<br/> 3-37790  SC-J  Lady Luck<br/> <br/> Can't read the remaining.<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>10/23/2009 6:38:05 PM 
| <blockquote><span class='author'>"donaldbyers":</span><br/>Thanks for the info Paul,<br/> <br/> First four are:<br/> <br/> 3-38810  SC-V  Mrs Knobby<br/> 3-38733  SC-K  I'll Be Seeing You<br/> 3-38541  SC-F  Diabolical Angle<br/> 3-37790  SC-J  Lady Luck<br/> <br/> Can't read the remaining.<br/> <br/> Don</blockquote><br/> <br/> Looking at the fin letters, and assuming they are all 612th aircraft, I can expand your list a bit:<br/> <br/> 43-38810 SC-V Mrs Knobby (formerly IY-N, the IY still faintly visible on the fuselage)<br/> 43-38733 SC-K I'll Be Seeing You<br/> 43-38541 SC-F Diabolical Angel<br/> 43-37790 SC-J  Lady Luck<br/> 43-38788 SC-T Heavy Date<br/> 44-6505 SC-N Satisfaction Guaranteed<br/> <br/> The one on the far end of the line is a bit trickier to identify.<br/> It looks to have the letter P on the fin, as it can't be F or T as both of those are already in the photo.<br/> However, SC-P was 42-31891, which was an olive drab B-17G which survived the war and was scrapped at Kingman. <br/> The last Fort in the photo also has a Cheyenne tail turret.<br/> <br/> Ah well, if nothing else that's two more on the list. &#x1f609;<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''ilbcnu2''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>11/10/2009 6:34:40 PM 
| Hi, <br/> I just found this site and was very curious about the "I'll Be Seeing You". This was my grandfather, Lt. Col Joe Cromer's plane. He was the pilot of the I'll be seeing you. In fact, that is my grandmother painted on the panel. After his crew departed from  overseas did another crew just pick up where they left off? I would love to have info you can provide. Thank you very much, Holli Boulware <br/><br/><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>11/10/2009 10:41:57 PM 
| Holli,<br/> <br/> That would be correct when a crew returns to the states the aircraft would go to another crew.  It would also happen when your grandfather was not flying another crew may fly the plane. I'll be seeing you flew a total of 48 missions until it "Sustained extensive flak damage and crashed while attempting a force-landing at Westhall, Suffolk on 24 Mar 1945 Rheine (236) ."  <br/> <br/> Contact me through [|historian@401bg.com] and I can provide one contact you may be able to talk with <br/> Don Byers<br/> Group Historian <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>7/27/2010 6:36:51 AM 
| Stars and Stripes has printed an article on the excavations: [http://www.stripes.com/news/europe/uk/briton-digs-up-remnants-of-a-fierce-time-1.111442|LINK]<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> PB <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>6/25/2014 1:51:29 PM 
| Joint memorial dedication service this afternoon for the crew of "I'll Be Seeing You", one of a pair commemorating two 8AF bomber crashes on the approach to Halesworth airfield.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD3.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD4.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD5.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD6.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Halesworth%20Memorial/HMD7.jpg' /> <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>6/26/2014 10:34:29 AM 
| Thanks for posting pictures here Paul!!! <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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