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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>1/24/2009 8:28:55 PM 
| <blockquote>Serial Number: 42-37722   <br/> Model: B-17G   <br/> Manufacturer: Douglas Aircraft, Long Beach, California   <br/> Production Block: B-17G-10-DL   <br/> Delivered by Manufacturer: 10 Aug 1943 at Denver   <br/> Squadron Code: n/a<br/> Nickname: n/a<br/> Date Assigned to 401st BG:   21 Jan 1944   <br/> Date Lost: 28 Jan 1944   <br/> Nature of Loss: Ground Accident   <br/>   <br/> Other Details: Caught fire and burnt out at the base.  Scrapped.<br/> <br/> After a normal landing on runway 10, this aircraft showed a burst of flame, apparently under the tail, but probably from the No. 3 engine.  The crash crew was away quickly and at first seemed to have put it out, but fire suddenly reappeared and rapidly became too strong to control.  All members of the crew evacuated the aircraft unhurt.</blockquote><br/> <br/> Two photos from the National Archives, which confirm '722 didn't have a painted ID Letter on her tail-fin when she was lost.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/42377221.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/42377222.jpg' /><br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>1/24/2009 11:46:45 PM 
| Good additional info on all Paul, I hope after all is said and done that we will have a good way to display all NARA Photos with description information........<br/> <br/> Don<br/> (Thanks for your caring work I know it is appreciated  by me and others!!!! As well as others such as Dale) <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''swinny''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/swinny.jpg' /></div><br/>1/25/2009 10:08:02 AM 
| Hi Paul<br/> <br/> Great pictures , but were did you found them.<br/> These 2 pictures are among the 29 pictures I still miss.<br/> I couldnt find these anywere.<br/> <br/> Andy<br/> <br/> Edit , yes I found them all , I think I have all the pictures ready now of the 401st. <br/><br/>_________________________________<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/swinny/margraten012.jpg' />      My adoption graves [http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm|http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm]<br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>1/25/2009 3:43:52 PM 
| Andy to you have a list of the 27 pictures you are missing.  I have the entire NARA collection and will have to check these two when I have a little time and make sure I also have these.<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>1/25/2009 7:43:00 PM 
| Ive gotten into the habit, when using Footnote, to scroll through all the "miscellaneous" uncaptioned photos at the end of each section. <br/> That's when the interesting ones that I haven't been able to find with the text-based searches turn up.  &#x1f609; <br/> <br/> Like this one, 53555AC...........<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/jkts1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> No title, no caption, just a collage of 401BG jacket art.  &#x1f642; <br/> <br/> TTFN,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''swinny''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/swinny.jpg' /></div><br/>1/26/2009 10:12:50 AM 
| Great picture Paul , already got it.<br/> <br/> @ Don , If my numbers are correct , I now have all the pictures of the 401st , thanks <br/><br/>_________________________________<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/swinny/margraten012.jpg' />      My adoption graves [http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm|http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm]<br/> 
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| '''win-win''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>1/26/2009 6:19:59 PM 
| Paul....Swinny....<br/> <br/> Footnote?  <br/> End of Section? <br/> Can you explain these a bit? <br/> <br/> I'm particularly looking for 'misc' or 'unidentified' Crew and A/C photos to view (in my 'hunt') and your posts are way, way, too fascinating to let pass-by without knowing more (even though you may have already explained it before).<br/> <br/> Win Bryson <br/><br/><br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>1/26/2009 7:00:34 PM 
| Footnote.com host the WWII US Air Force photo archive from NARA, viewable online and individually downloadable.<br/> <br/> At the bottom of the photo-viewer screen you can open a "filmstrip", which shows the various photo's in that section of the archive, at the end of which is usually a fair number of miscellaneous uncaptioned pictures related to that section.<br/> <br/> I've not dared go through the England&gt;Crews untitled section yet, there must be quite a few to plough through.<br/> Then there's the England&gt;(aircraft) Nicknames section....... &#x1f609;<br/> <br/> I've lost whole DAYS in there already.  :mrgreen: <br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''ElmersTune''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>1/26/2009 11:30:58 PM 
| Paul...Swinny<br/> <br/> Hi,  I am also on a "Hunt," for photos from the Spring/Summer of 1944.  Anything of Deenthorpe, especially unidentified photos.  I wish there was a place where members could post their photo collections for all to research and enjoy.<br/> <br/> Bill Gillespie <br/><br/><br/> 
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| '''swinny''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/swinny.jpg' /></div><br/>1/27/2009 12:35:31 PM 
| Well Paul , it took me months to download all the pictures regarding the 401st.<br/> Its my believe I now have them all , I have downloaded 676 photo`s in very very good quality .<br/> I am now trying to arrange them but have to trust on the dates that come with the pictures.<br/> If somebody is interested I made a excel file ( with a former file I got from Paul )  with all the numbers and information of every picture I have, putting them on the right date.<br/> I am making a slideshow of them .<br/> But that is going to take a wile.<br/> <br/> Andy <br/><br/>_________________________________<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/swinny/margraten012.jpg' />      My adoption graves [http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm|http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm]<br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>1/27/2009 2:36:16 PM 
| You have 10 more pictures than I have which is the collection that I got from the 401st BG that the NARA provided to them.  I am waiting to see what the new site will look like as I am looking for a program that I might be able to use on the website that will show the picture and description that needs to be typed in from info from the NARA which is the back side of the picture,<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/23/2010 10:58:40 AM 
| I found the Overseas Accident Report for '722 today, and with it we can now say she was allocated to the 612th Bomb Squadron.<br/> <br/> Date: 44-01-28   	 <br/> Type: B-17G<br/> Serial: 42-37722  	 <br/> Squadron: 612BS   	<br/> Group: 401BG  	 <br/> Station: 128   	 <br/> Air Force: 8   	 <br/> Fate: DF (Destroyed, Fire)	 <br/> Pilot: [++c010761|Sellers, William D]   	 <br/> Location of accident: Deenethorpe/Sta 128 <br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>3/23/2010 12:06:57 PM 
| I have updated the Squadron code.<br/> <br/> Thanks Paul <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/23/2010 12:56:26 PM 
| Thanks Don,<br/> <br/> I've got some more info updates for you, following an afternoon spent comparing existing data to dated photos.<br/> I'll put it in a dedicated thread shortly.<br/> <br/> TTFN,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>3/23/2010 2:46:30 PM 
| What was in the OS accident report that showed 722 as 612th?  This is so I can annotate it.  Also supply that with any others identified.<br/> <br/> Tks Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/23/2010 3:36:47 PM 
| Sorry Don,<br/> <br/> I should have been clearer. I don't have the OAR itself, just the index of them.<br/> <br/> As above, the index entries are listed by:<br/> Date of accident <br/> Type of aircraft<br/> Serial number of aircraft<br/> Squadron allocation<br/> Group allocation<br/> Home Base or AAF Station<br/> Air Force allocation<br/> Action<br/> Pilot<br/> Location of accident<br/> <br/> The 401st OARs indexed for January 1944 for example are:<br/> <pre><code><br/> Date   Type  Serial    Sqdn  Group  Base AF  Action Pilot              Country Location<br/> 440101 B-17G 42-40002  615BS 401BG  128  8   TAC    Lewis, Clyde A     ENG     Little Staughton/Sta 127 <br/> 440101 B-17G 42-37928  615BS 401BG  128  8   GAC    None               ENG     Little Staughton/Sta 127 <br/> 440111 B-17G 42-31090  613BS 401BG  128  8   LAC    Piper, Harry L Jr  ENG     Matlask <br/> 440124 B-17G 42-31087  612BS 401BG  128  8   TAC    Fox, Gaston M      ENG     Deenethorpe/Sta 128<br/> 440127 B-17G 42-31414  615BS 401BG  128  8   TAC    Van Sycle, Leon C  ENG     Deenethorpe/Sta 128 <br/> 440128 B-17G 42-37722  612BS 401BG  128  8   DF     Sellers, William D ENG     Deenethorpe/Sta 128</code></pre><br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>3/23/2010 4:41:14 PM 
| Good enough, Thanks <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>3/24/2010 9:13:58 AM 
| Love this site... <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt  Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>11/30/2011 3:12:39 PM 
| As a follow-up it seems the other B-17 that burned out on the ground before entering combat operations, 44-6485, was also assigned to the 612th.<br/> <br/> This photo shows her sitting on Dispersal #14, in the 612th Squadron area, with the wind-sock mast and Hangar #2 in the distance.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/446485.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Here's the Overseas Accident Report Index entry for the loss of '485, which again includes the squadron identity:<br/> <br/> Date: 44-9-23<br/> Type: B-17G<br/> Serial: 44-6485<br/> Squadron: 612BS<br/> Group: 401BG<br/> Station: 128<br/> Air Force: 8<br/> Fate: MFDF (Mechanical Failure, Destroyed by Fire)<br/> Damage Category: 5 (Total loss)<br/> Pilot: (ground crew)<br/> Location of accident: Deenethorpe/Sta 128<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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| '''donaldbyers''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/donaldbyers.jpg' /></div><br/>11/30/2011 3:34:50 PM 
| Thanks Paul I will fix it and also make sure it is a "G" model as well.<br/> <br/> Don <br/><br/>Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.<br/> 
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| '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>11/30/2011 3:37:07 PM 
| Ta Don,<br/> <br/> 44-6485 was from block B-17G-50-DL, which we already knew.<br/> I'll keep out of the database for a while to give you a chance to do the changes.<br/> <br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> 
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