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Paul Bellamy
3/10/2010 4:11:53 PM | I've split this off from the "Mickey Ships" thread as more information is coming to light regarding those B-17s of the 401st which were fitted with the "Carpet" radio countermeasures systems.
I've spotted a number of aircraft fitted with the distinctive "fish hook" AS-69 Antenna of the AN/APT-2 "Carpet" Radio Countermeasures jamming set under the nose. This device was designed to jam the German Wurtzburg and Flak gunlaying radar equipment.
"Little Larry"
43-38738 IW-N Becomin' Back
43-38788 SC-T Heavy Date
44-6588 IN-D Carrie B IV
43-38733 SC-K I'll Be Seeing You
Unidentified a/c
More to come as I find them.....
TTFN,
Paul
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MaryAlice
3/10/2010 5:04:05 PM | maybe it gets old you hearing this, maybe not..either way, will say it again...THANKS for these photo's Paul, very nice!!
Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"
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EDanaII
3/10/2010 6:19:17 PM | Watch out, guys! (I don't trust those arrows... I think they're up to no good!)
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MaryAlice
3/10/2010 7:02:51 PM | "EDanaII":
Watch out, guys! (I don't trust those arrows... I think they're up to no good!)
LOL!!!
Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"
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Paul Bellamy
3/11/2010 7:47:59 PM | Here's the current (almost certainly incomplete) list of confirmed and probable Carpet-equipped B-17s within the 401BG:
Confirmed:
43-38646 IW-T
43-38733 SC-K I'll Be Seeing You
43-38738 IW-N Becomin' Back
43-38788 SC-T Heavy Date
43-39125 IN-M Der Grossarschvogel
44-6588 IN-D Carrie B IV
Probable:
42-102947 IN-S D-Day Dottie
42-31591 IN-J Homesick Angel
43-37706 IN-U Satan's Chillen
44-6313 IN-F Budd's Dudds
All the best,
Paul
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Paul Bellamy
3/14/2010 11:34:57 AM | Lewis Winker was a Carpet RCM operator with the 401st's sister group, the 351BG at nearby Polebrook.
Here's a link to his story, which explains the system very well:
http://winker.net/lewis/carpet.htm
All the best,
Paul
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MaryAlice
3/14/2010 1:43:38 PM | "Paul Bellamy":
Lewis Winker was a Carpet RCM operator with the 401st's sister group, the 351BG at nearby Polebrook.
Here's a link to his story, which explains the system very well:
http://winker.net/lewis/carpet.htm
All the best,
Paul
Everytime you come up with another link, or another photograph Paul...it has become "humorous", not humorous ha-ha, but humorous in shaking my head in disbeilief/putting a smile on my face and saying wow....THAT humorous.
Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"
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Paul Bellamy
2/9/2011 8:12:16 PM | List update, RCM ships confirmed so far from mission formation diagrams:
42-107151
IW-B Cover Girl
43-37551
IY-L IW-Y
No photo yet
43-37706
IN-U Satan's Chillen
43-38541
SC-F Diabolical Angel
43-38565
IW-X Miss Gee Eyewanna Go Home
No photo yet
43-38637
SC-L
No photo yet
43-38646
IW-T
No photo yet
43-38733
SC-K I'll Be Seeing You
43-38738
IW-N Becomin' Back
43-38758
IN-P Fast Company
No photo yet
43-38779
IY-O Rough but Right
43-38788
SC-T Heavy Date
43-38810
IY-N SC-V Mrs Knobby
43-39125
IN-M Der Grossarschvogel
No photo yet
44-6588
IN-D Carrie B IV
All the best,
Paul
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Paul Bellamy
3/8/2011 9:00:04 AM | I finally have some concrete information on the RCM installations in the 401st's B-17s. 🙂
From the Group Operational Report for November 1944:
On Saturday, 25 November 1944, the 401st Bomb Group flew it's first Carpet-equipped mission.
Two Carpet transmitters were installed in all aircraft on the formation sheet with the exception of the Group Lead and Deputy Lead, the High squadron lead, PFF aircraft, as well as any flying or ground spares.
From the GOR for January 1945:
Spot jamming installations have been made in three (3) A/C of each squadron.
This means that in addition to barrage type jamming our formations will now be afforded additional protection through spot jamming of German radar frequencies.
And from the GOR for February 1945:
On the 9th of February 1945 the first "spot" mission was flown by this group.
Each spot jamming aircraft is equipped with an operator, three Carpet transmitters and a spot receiver.
Two of these spot jamming aircraft fly in each twelve aircraft squadron.
All the best,
Paul
Paul Bellamy
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